yes Fazz understand where you coming from.

-RM500 per team over 4 drivers (RM125 each driver)
-RM10 rebate to club member
-20 minutes non-stop qualifying, compulsary for all 4 drivers. Take average time for grid position.
-100 minutes enduro, unlimitted pit attempt.
-Max drive time per driver no more than 30 minutes and no less then 25 minutes.

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SAYA SETUJU DAN SOKONG!....hopefully this will attract 15 karts at least.
If the above is ok, we should immediately start a thread to seek Teams registration for 1st December 2007 (Luen?)

SAYA SETUJU DAN SOKONG!....hopefully this will attract 15 karts at least.
If the above is ok, we should immediately start a thread to seek Teams registration for 1st December 2007 (Luen?)

SAYA JUGA SOKONG! HIDUP MY-KART!!

pls count me in

I have books 1st and 8th December to any of these dates availability

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Wan Shin for some reason mentioned to keep it at RM240 so as not to so call "spoil the market". I reckon the higher cost for MAAU and A1TM could include other things like some refreshments or prizes for instance?

Can someone who participated in those events confirm this.

The MAAC they charged RM80/driver = RM320/team.... i did saw few boxes of 'mineral water' for the participants & packed noodles and for the prizes they gave medals for the top 3 teams + a bottle of 'sparkling wine'. The team with the fastest lap time also received a medal... err i believe that all

oppss... besides medals there were two trophies, if I'm not mistaken Their Championship Trophy and the other one i can't recall..

Sure, we will do the same......trophies and medals plus some sandwichwes and water....afterall this is the Grand Finale! We will wait for Luen to propose some more details on this subject including race format and rules.

Dare I say this,.......Luen and I are seriously thinking about a my-kart Iron Man Race to be slotted in November 2007, since there are no races in that month before the Dec 1st Grand Finale. It will be a 2 driver team running the 80cc kart for 2 hours! ( sorry, we dont think the 4 driver, 2 hour race is challenging enough for the hard core my-karters...hehehe...jangan marah ye). Of course, we are not expecting 20 teams for this....but than there are not too many hard - core karters around,.....I stand corrected!

how about 30 minutes qualifying + 120 minutes race charging RM600 / 4 = 150 per driver?

or

RM600 120 minutes per team plus food catering and throphies

or

what will be the ideal charging price, please comment.

Had dinner with Naza just now, were discussing about Ironman challenge of 120 minutes 2 drivers per team. This will be different series of endurance race series.

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ok , to maintain market price, we sale RM600 per team for 2 hours

20 minutes qualifying + 100 minutes endurance.
Throphies and light food provided.

But then again, if RM600 for 2 hours per race, the ironman challenge is going to be pricy though.

please together we set a right price. I will prepare race format and technical admin format later once we have agreed upon the price.

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I was thinking of a "Ramadhan Special" race...buka puasa, and then 1 hour Enduro between 8.30-9.30pm....can or not??

Team, please fix a price. Thanks

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I am ok with 600 per team / 4 drivers = 150 per driver which will include trophies, medals and light refeshments.

Umbrella ladies are NOT included for now (Auntie, how?)

hrmmm... RM150, ok lah.. 'lepas geram session!!'

ok RM150 per driver + throphies + refreshments + W&J????

I will reconfirm once acquired confirmation from CK of date and Time

Guess we can start posting the on the general forum for early bird package, Naza??

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W&J => assuming we are running about 10 teams, the it should be an extra RM60 (ish) per team, ie RM15 per driver...u want or not?? cheap cheap, they love you long time!...

Yeah!, do an early bird package by giving RM40 off to the TEAM if they register before 30th October 2007. To give enough preparation time for CK , close all registration on 23rd November 2007.

Can we agree with the above proposal?

Luen,
Some of my thoughts with regards to Rules and Race Format:

1. If a team is not satisfied with their kart, allow the change AFTER the Qualifying session has ended. In addition, the team will lose some positions (decision?) as penalty.

2. Allow kart change, subject to availability only if it cannot move due to its own fault. However, no kart change will be allowed if the kart cannot move due to accidents irrespective of who is at fault.

3. What about total driver weights?.....shall a minimum weight rule be adopted?

Format:

Requirement
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-4 drivers to a team
-minimum required total weight for team is 280kg
-Decent 2 qualified grid positions of every 3kg below minimum weight requirement.

20 minutes qualifying round
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-all drivers must participate, taking average all 4 fastest lap time by each driver, deciding on grid position
-absence of any of the team driver in qualifying will be starting at the back of the grid
-in incident of kart failure during qualifying round and unable to clock time, the team my resume to race by starting at the end of grid position with spare kart
-Pit will open throughout entire qualifying session and no restriction to each driver maximum track time
-The team is allowed to change kart ONLY if kart failure during qualifying
-The team is allowed to change kart after qualifying round with reason of incompetence of current kart. The team will decent 50 percent of its qualified grid position.

The race
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-100 minutes unlimited pit stop
- All team member compulsory clock minimum 25 and maximum 35 minutes of track time. Every 3 minutes excess of total team and or individual driving time will minus 1 lap at end result
-in incident of kart failure, driver will have to get spare kart back at pit/control area that is subjected to spare kart availability
-in incident lost of transponder due to accident, the team will be disqualified as no lap time taken
-Petrol refuel at no compulsary pit time limit

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"Incompatibility" here means?.....very poor kart performance to be decided solely by race director / organiser? (The organiser's decision is final)

Every 3 mins excess of total team?....theoretically not possible as race will end at 100 minutes.

More important is how do we monitor each driver of every team not to exceed 35 mins. Some sort of system is needed, maybe discuss later.

Yeah Naza you are right. It will not exceed 100 minutes in total time

I think we should set min 20 and max 35 of individual driving time, penalty on 3 minutes exceed and or below. Sum of track time of individual driver may be multiple pit stops since it is unlimitted pitstop race. Example below shows detail ;

example of individual driver exceed and below 3 minutes buffer for both driver1 and driver 4
driver 1 40 minutes --> pit1 15 minutes ---> pit2 15 minutes ---> pit3 10 minutes
driver 2 25 minutes --> pit1 15 minutes ----> pit 2 10 minites
driver 3 19 minutes --> pit 1 19 minutes
driver 4 16 minutes ---> pit1 16 minutes
total pit time for this team is 7

example of 3 minutes buffered to individual
driver 1 38 minutes
driver 2 22 minutes
driver 3 22 minutes
driver 4 18 minutes

Control system
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there will be a docket or piece of card board given to each team, driver that comes back from track will need to take this card for timestamp at control booth with official signature.

Sum up time stamps will be the total time on track, this method will be useful during the race. During qualifying, driver would just need to report him/herself at control booth after each run.

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Errr may be should use the word incompetence instead. yes subjec to kart availability and final decision by race admin

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Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe the total minimum weight for all male drivers team is 270kg in our old mega-endurance race.

Deduct 10kg for every female driver.

previous race does not include qualifying round. Qualified standings already decided and proved of weight over speed matter. This also avoid of unwanted heavy-weight drivers. But I agreed deduct some total weight if having female driver onboard, but not 10 kg

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