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Safety Issues

Everyone,

Since Rd10 is still far away, I was wondering about what we can do to make the event safer. As we all know that the safety of CK circuit is built for CW and the safety for CCW is not 100% especially on some corners. The problem we faced on the Rd8 was the tyre barriers and the flags. I don't think we can do much about the tyre barriers but the flags we can do something about it. At the meantime, CK has only 1 Yellow, 1 Green, 1 Red and 1 Chequered Flag. Could we like ask AP to create more sets of flag so that we can assign people to be at certain corners with the flag. I know it's a little hot out there but safety is our priority right? Looking at the circuit CCW, I found that we need to be at certain corners with the flags because the tyre barriers are blocking the views of the drivers of what is happening on the other side of the tyre barriers.

Explaination on the picture:
1) Each flag colours are represent by the circles with their respective colours.
2) The blue lines are basically the corners that the person in charge of the flags should be watching.
3) And basically we need another 5 new sets of Red and Yellow Flags.

Any suggestions? Ask CK to provide it(benefits them too) or we make it on our own and keep it for myKart's event?

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Nohad:

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In my personal point of view, turn 1 shall be at turn 10 as stated in your sketch to avoid confusion.

The turn numbers on the sketch is basing on the old start/finish which is. on the straight after coming out of the pit.


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TheFazz:

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positioning of the flag points should be before the braking point and not directly ahead of the braking points. the flag points will need to be able to warn other drivers of the potential hazards ahead of them in the braking zone.

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edwynlow:

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Nohad wrote:
In my personal point of view, turn 1 shall be at turn 10 as stated in your sketch to avoid confusion.

The turn numbers on the sketch is basing on the old start/finish which is. on the straight after coming out of the pit.

I got this picture from the Internet and didn't bother changing the numbers for the turn Sticking out tongue because I think the positioning of the flags is more important

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edwynlow:

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TheFazz wrote:
positioning of the flag points should be before the braking point and not directly ahead of the braking points. the flag points will need to be able to warn other drivers of the potential hazards ahead of them in the braking zone.

Ok~ I will make corrections to it.

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edwynlow:

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Fazz & Patrick,

Updated the corner numbers and the position of the flags. What do you think?

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TheFazz:

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looks alright, give me a moment.

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sabelt:

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The problem is who wants to volunteer this job? Even doing lap charts also malas2 and some of us prefer to chill under the shades. LOL. Semua nak posing like top gun and DTM drivers.

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saa73:

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ALthough there are 5 areas for flags, it may be possible to reduce the number of flag wavers to 3, ie one person for T2 & T5, one for T10 & T12, and one for T8. Those handling 2 corners have to be vigilant and run a bit lorr..


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luen:

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I agreed with Sabelt, But that is not entirely not workable la haha....

Fag post should be located on the straight line ahead and entry of total blind spots multiple chicane/ hairpin

My suggestion post located at;

1. outter turn 2, this position can monitor Turn 2,3,4
2. outter turn 5, this position can monitor turn 5,6,7
3. between turn 7 and 8, this position monitor turn 8 and 9
4. out turn 10, this position monitor turn 10, 11,and 12

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edwynlow:

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ah.. let me explain a bit on the picture.

well you can see two colour circles.. red and yellow (basically its the flags). and there is the line that connects the circle and the blue colour track. this is basically the person in charge of the flags who will be watching that particular area of the track (which is the blue colour track)

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edwynlow:

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sabelt wrote:
The problem is who wants to volunteer this job? Even doing lap charts also malas2 and some of us prefer to chill under the shades. LOL. Semua nak posing like top gun and DTM drivers.

I don't mind running around with the flags, it may be tiring but at least my fellow karters are in a safer race

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naza:

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I don't mind running around with the flags, it may be tiring but at least my fellow karters are in a safer race

I salute you bro! I 'll be there so long as my old legs can tahan your pace..... Smiling

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edwynlow:

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naza wrote:
edwynlow wrote:

I don't mind running around with the flags, it may be tiring but at least my fellow karters are in a safer race

I salute you bro! I 'll be there so long as my old legs can tahan your pace..... Smiling

thanks for the support bro.. Thumbs up

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Jules:

bro,

thanks for effort but ur flag locations wrong.....esp if u come with 100cc speeds.

flags should be at END of straights BEFORE the set of corners you want covered. U gotta think of the tyre barriers which at times block a clear view of next set of bends when u plan this. Line of sight sitting on a kart.....not standing ok?

Good effort and yes, getting ppl to do this will be the biggest hurdle. All others ( location can kautim ). One flag enough....or even no need flag - just a guy to show PRE-AGREED hand signals will do!

Have fun.

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edwynlow:

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Jules wrote:
bro,

thanks for effort but ur flag locations wrong.....esp if u come with 100cc speeds.

flags should be at END of straights BEFORE the set of corners you want covered. U gotta think of the tyre barriers which at times block a clear view of next set of bends when u plan this. Line of sight sitting on a kart.....not standing ok?

Good effort and yes, getting ppl to do this will be the biggest hurdle. All others ( location can kautim ). One flag enough....or even no need flag - just a guy to show PRE-AGREED hand signals will do!

Have fun.

Ok. Will do some corrections to it.. thanks Jules

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edwynlow:

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So guys.. are we going for the hand signals or the flags? I reckon the flags is better because it creates more attention and we don't need to jump or wave like monkeys if we use hand signals. I can try to talk to AP or someone at CK and see if they are willing to make more flags. Just Yellow Flags will do I reckon. How many you guys want them to make, if they agree?

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