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Beware of this VW Beetle from VW Cars Sdn Bhd

Guys, as many of you are aware I have been having the craziest of time recently dealing with VW Cars relating to the purchase of a VW Beetle for my wife... really, yes... for my wife not me...

Anyway, it now seems the moon sized ego of the management of VW Cars has gotten the better of them and they have cancelled the sales and purchase agreement (as of today, but things do change quickly), so keep coming back here to check for updates.

The purpose of this entry is two fold. First to warn you of the unscrupulous business ethics of VW Cars and secondly and more seriously to warn any potential purchaser of a VW Beetle about this specific vehicle.

In short, after waiting 5 months for my car it was delivered but was involved in an accident and VW Cars fixed it up and tried to make me accept it, which of course I didn’t. BTW, they registered it under my name. As of today they have cancelled the whole deal and asked me to sign the ownership transfer… my warning is to anyone who may want to purchase a beetle, please do check first that it is not this one. Firstly it’s not new and secondly it has been involved in an accident.

It is a red colour (Salsa Red, 2008 VW Beetle 1.6). Details as follows:-
Registration WRC 9613
Engine No. BFS067313
Chassis No. WVWZZZ9C8M560799

I’m not suggesting that the car should not be sold, but it certainly should not be passed on as a brand new car after it has been involved in an accident, hence why I’m informing you guys.

For those who are interested in knowing how VW Cars have gone about handling this entire affair I’ve attached all the details in MS Word format for you to download at your leisure… it makes an amusing story.

I plan to update this page and the chronology as and when there are new updates.

Also, please feel free to circulate this info to your friends, family or colleagues who may be thinking of purchasing a vehicle from VW Cars.

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Da Lobster

Comments

euss72:

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WTF!! Shocked Sad Thumbs down

Sorry, I have noting against VW CARS but this is absolutely not right! Thumbs down Thumbs down

May be u need to take it to the next level...Legal Action or THE MEDIA!! Idea

I may sounds a bit emo here..but.. Puzzled Puzzled


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karter_stuart:

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wow! that must be very depressing for u and your wife i completely agree with euss threaten some legal action and see what happens although i think it might make quite an interesting story for the media as well... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked just read the story. that is absolutely crazy! i have never heard of such a bad purchasing experience, im no lawyer but surely there is some thing that u can sue them for?

-i strongly urge any one to read the document as it really shows the severity of this


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sabelt:

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Sorry to hear about that bro. Mark, the best is to meet the tribunal of consumer claims officials before their side (VW) write in an official lawyer letter to you.

Here's another sad case involving my close friend when he bought a subaru wrx approximately 4-5 months. Quite similar case and he had lodge a report to TTPM before it gets too late.

Comments below taken from my subaru club website

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1. For the benefit / information to all Subaru owners, I would like to relate a very bad experience :fire: we had when dealing with Motor Image (MI).

2. So on behalf on the sad Subaru owner, I hereby would like to relate the bad episode we had with MI. The WRX was bought from MI on 25.1.08 because it came strongly recommended by Subaru friends, plus with a 3 year warranty or 60,000 km whichever comes first. When bought it had 13000 km mileage. JPJ card stated “kereta impot baru”. Regular services (5000-7000 km) done at MI. One shock absorber was replaced within the third week of purchase. One used STI Genome muffler was fixed outside. During the regular services done at MI, nobody informed / advised owner on the usage of the used Genome muffler would render the warranty void. In fact, owner earlier seek advise from the sales staff whether its ok to fix the muffler and the answer given was ok to fix it. Sometimes in March, owner complained to MI about seeing smoke coming out from the front scoop but the standard answer given by technician ‘NO PROBLEM LAH’. Engine was kept stock standard.

3. One week before his trip to Lumut, the car was send-in for another service. On return trip home (15.6.08) the Subaru convoy stopped at Sg. Buloh R&R for 45 mins. Later, we proceeded for home after a happy outing at Lumut. Unfortunately, at about 7.30pm, he heard loud clonking noises coming from the engine and suddenly the car broke down just a few km from his house. The car was then put on a flat-bed truck and delivered to Motor Image the same day at 11pm.

4. The next day (16/6), owner saw John Lim (JL), GM of MI and was informed, he will open-up the engine to find out whats wrong. After many calls and few visits to MI, sad to say, the engine was only dismantled on 1/7/08. on 26/6, 8 Subaru members including the owner visited MI to have a frank dialogue :gg: with the GM. We were made to wait for about 1 hour before we could see him (we had to ask his PA few times his whereabout!). we were told to walk to the parts dept where he was located. Sadly it is a small place where only 2 chairs were available and the 6 of us have got to stand for 45 minutes :fire: :fire: while talking to JL (poor public relations!). JL could have instructed his PA for us to wait in the conference room where we can be seated comfortably.

5. We asked him many questions about the car like why engine was not dismantle after more than 4 weeks in the workshop. The warranty claim, no receipt issued after taking-in the car, his action plan on the car and so forth. We were upset the way he handle the discussion, like saying the owner revved his car (without having solid proof), contaminated petrol / Ron 97 (in Japan Ron 100), no oil cooler and other craps / what really piss off our group was the way he conducted the talk, he was not straight forward, meddling / fiddling his desk computer while talking to us at certain point, he was quite arrogant in answering our questions.

6. Since no report was given to car owner (car in workshop more than 30 days), owner wrote in two letters dated 3/7 and 9/7 to JL but no reply till today. JL even gave instructions to his staff NOT to talk to owner about the car condition without his permission (what a big joke and customer relations!). On 4/7 JL called owner to inform NO WARRANTY claim can be made because he fitted the muffler from outside (another lame excuse in not accepting responsibility). On 18/7, 5 Subaru members called on JL to discuss the warranty claim. He avoided the subject matter but said he waited to test the engine oil (supplied by MI), check the engine component parts and to send the ECU to FHI. On 25/7 owner call up MI to find out status but was shock to find out no action taken by JL. So can u imagine the owner’s anger and frustrations in dealing with MI.

7. In fact two calls were made to Glen Tan (CEO of MI) who is based in Singapore, but unfortunately he did not return our calls Sad even through messages were left to Kelly Chong (his PA). However, on behalf of the owner, I spoke twice to Kelly Chong relating our bad / poor experience with MI Malaysia. By the way, we were dully informed by Ms. Kelly, JL has deal directly with the owner on the issue, (dia mau lepas tangan!).

8. Another big joke happened last week when owner was denied entry to the workshop to take photos of the engine! There was a stand-off :fire: for about 15 mins before permission was given to him to take the photos.

9. So to all Subaru friends, here we were, a classic example of shrieking responsibility towards a simple, genuine warranty claim! Again, the GM’s attitude is left much to the desired.

10. In view of the above subject matter (after a lapse of more 50 days, no actions taken to replace / repair the engine).

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RawFlesh:

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OMG & WTF Laughing out loud

After reading both VW n MI stories, I have to agree with what everyone has said here so far.

Not sure that it matters, but I would think VW n Subaru would like to hear of these sort of nonsence happening with their respective brands.

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timmsm:

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RawFlesh wrote:
OMG & WTF Laughing out loud

After reading both VW n MI stories, I have to agree with what everyone has said here so far.

Not sure that it matters, but I would think VW n Subaru would like to hear of these sort of nonsence happening with their respective brands.

Not sure about the Subaru complaint, but I have copied all correspondence with VW Cars to VW Group Malaysia. I also send a copy to the HQ in Germany... both are silent!! Birds of a feather, flock together maybe?

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Da Lobster


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luen:

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as always;) VW = Very Wierd

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naza:

timmsm wrote:
RawFlesh wrote:
OMG & WTF Laughing out loud

After reading both VW n MI stories, I have to agree with what everyone has said here so far.

Not sure that it matters, but I would think VW n Subaru would like to hear of these sort of nonsence happening with their respective brands.

Not sure about the Subaru complaint, but I have copied all correspondence with VW Cars to VW Group Malaysia. I also send a copy to the HQ in Germany... both are silent!! Birds of a feather, flock together maybe?

Bro,
This is absolute rubbish, down right unscrupulous and totally irresponsible on the part of the seller to even dare to write such responses to you the consumer!...(...I am trembling with emotion!).

I pray that you will have the extra patience and perseverance to see justice done!

...further visits to the VW showroom is now in question!

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Jules:

Sorry to hear abt the bad experience Mark.

Well, since Edwyn also bought a VW.....you can ask his salesman which is his friend for some inside story before launching a alavo of fire to them.

Keep us posted.

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Jules:

luen wrote:
as always;) VW = Very Wierd

Very Wrong
Very Worried

Not to start a VW bashing but I just want to poke some fun, to ease Mark's tension.Have a beer

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RawFlesh:

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naza wrote:
timmsm wrote:
RawFlesh wrote:
OMG & WTF Laughing out loud

After reading both VW n MI stories, I have to agree with what everyone has said here so far.

Not sure that it matters, but I would think VW n Subaru would like to hear of these sort of nonsence happening with their respective brands.

Not sure about the Subaru complaint, but I have copied all correspondence with VW Cars to VW Group Malaysia. I also send a copy to the HQ in Germany... both are silent!! Birds of a feather, flock together maybe?

Bro,
This is absolute rubbish, down right unscrupulous and totally irresponsible on the part of the seller to even dare to write such responses to you the consumer!...(...I am trembling with emotion!).

I pray that you will have the extra patience and perseverance to see justice done!

...further visits to the VW showroom is now in question!


Mark - Could be same birds... Yea, would b a good idea to fish some inside stories from Edwyn's friend.

Naza - I felt the same way.

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You MISS 100% of the Shots YOU don't take!


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OSFlanker:

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Dun buy from VW Cars, buy from FA Fagen. Long Live VW!


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ajak:

Cry very-very sorry to hear your experience. Be patient Bro. You have to follow-up with the complaints until they got fed-up,who knows,might-be you'll be getting a brand new Beetle for free. In my experience, I've got a customers who got a free car frm Perodua before with this type of case. Don't worry Bro, justice will be on your side...TQ

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edwynlow:

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Mark - PM me if you need the numbers.

Guys,
I heard from my friend recently that, there are these mod VW Golf GTi selling for the same price as the original ones. He advice to call VW Malaysia and ask if it is under full warranty. Because he said that he knows nothing about all these mod VW Golf GTi.

So please, check really properly if you are buying a VW. Don't check with the sales person, but to VW Malaysia or VW HQ at Germany...

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Consistency. "Do one thing at a time; Jules" - EL


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timmsm:

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Thanks guys for all your words of support... this whole situation had me doubting my own sanity and even questioning myself whether I was in the wrong... judging by the OMG's and WTF's, you have confirmed my suspicions Eye

Edwyn, would you mind sending me your friends contact details. Thanks mate.

Here's one for Luen
VW CARS = Very Wicked, Crappy And Ridiculous Service

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Da Lobster


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csetter:

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timmsm wrote:
Thanks guys for all your words of support... this whole situation had me doubting my own sanity and even questioning myself whether I was in the wrong... judging by the OMG's and WTF's, you have confirmed my suspicions Eye

Edwyn, would you mind sending me your friends contact details. Thanks mate.

Here's one for Luen
VW CARS = Very Wicked, Crappy And Ridiculous Service

or..
Various
W*nkers


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OSFlanker:

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csetter wrote:
or..
Various
W*nkers

Please just stick to ridiculing VW cars and not VW, coz VW iz da best esp the Golf GTI Mark 2 16V Sticking out tongue kekeke

Here is my take on VW :

Voluptiuos
Wench


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saa73:

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OSFlanker wrote:
csetter wrote:
or..
Various
W*nkers

Please just stick to ridiculing VW cars and not VW, coz VW iz da best esp the Golf GTI Mark 2 16V Sticking out tongue kekeke

Here is my take on VW :

Voluptiuos
Wench

nah...VW's a right wing fascist piece of $^#$%@.... Cool


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