I will like the K2 to remain as it a step ahead for K3 drivers before going to K1.

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i think that to abolish K2 would be a very bad idea as it may scare people that want to move up but not straight to K1 to get some dedicated karts for K2 i think is a very good idea because initially that was what put me off even wanting to go up, since i had had some experience with the K2 rental karts and how bad they were my view was that they were just too unreliable but my need to go faster has since out ranked that view and i cant wait to try out the K2

it wiil be better to run 1 and 2.

Given participants of choices to run exclusive and normal rental karts.

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Keep the K2 series, it is a stepping stone into K1.

To pay a small higher fee to have a better "exclusive" kart to race is much more satisfying rather than grumbling about the poor state of the current K2 karts after the race, where you will get frustrated and the passion in K2 karting might be killed.

The bad condition of the current K2 karts is not a surprised, the karts are basically used for the daily rental and you should see how the karts are being thrashed in many of the inexperience hands.

Current K2 drivers and soon to be K2 drivers - it would be great to hear your views as well - jgn malu la

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why not set a mini meeting for this .. like a yum cha session... we can all sit down and discuss it with da committee and drivers?

just say where and when

Wednesday 27 Aug 08 - 9.30pm
Restoran Kayu, Aman Suria, PJ

OK kah?

I agree with Luen. Can we run 1 & 2 at the same time?

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im fine with that but is that enough time to get every1 together?

I'm stuck in Ipoh, so I wont be attending it. Can someone provide a summary and conclusion of that meeting. Thx

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I'm all for the exclusive K2 kart idea to bring in some consistency and closer racing. Current K2 format is still great but tends to have a somewhat predictable final because you know which karts are the performers and which are the donkeys based on the qualifiers.

Best wishes

Chris

i dont mind remaining at K2 exclusive just to make the quota. anyway, all i want is close racing, not one here and the other one there..

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so is the meeting still on tomorrow? or postponed...

i dun think meeting is on ritE? abit last minute what about... this weekend sometime?!

guys, sorry but tomorrow night is out of the question for me... home alone and 3 kids to handle

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mark, actually just 1 kid to handle!!

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Halloo! yum cha tonight on ar?...can't wait to hear tales of your latest exploits and pursuits to lighten up the heavy K2 talk!

Yea, I want consistent close racing too. Hate it when we get those crappy karts, nothing else to do but to go for a Sunday drive.

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exclusive k2 karts all the way.

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This should put the fun of close racing in K2 again.

Btw, exclusive K2 karts doesn't just you have a more equal kart but you get to learn to tweak the handling of the kart (eg..play around with tyre pressures).

Yea, agreed.... We'll learn more about the dynamics of our kart and how we can change settings to suit our driving style. Now, it's about trying to change our driving style to suit the kart(crappy or not).

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I find it to be a bad idea to run both the exclusive-K2 and rental-K2 concurrently. These same-category splits will cannibalise each other and may dramatically reduce the number of participants for BOTH of the categories. So you’ll get neither here, nor there in terms of number of karts on the track.

I for one definitely think k2 is vital as a stepping stone.. and willing to pay a lil more... but proposed fee RM200??? the math just isnt feasible tho, to me it doesnt even add up..even the current prices makes me wonder...even tho its vital to have K2.. whats the point for having K2 if its more expensive than K1? just isnt logical.. currently K2 drivers are already paying the most per cc .. should nego with ck about their pricing structure....

Facts & Figures

K1 = RM190. Cost per cc = RM1.52
Current K2 = RM170 , difference to K1 in cc is 25cc. Cost per cc = RM1.70
K3 = RM90, difference in cc is 20cc when compared to K2. Cost per cc = RM1.125
Proposed K2 = RM200, cost per cc is a staggering RM2

We are already currently paying ck too much.. RM170 is already a super steep price for a machine that needs more medical attention than my grandma

The pricing for K2 should be in BETWEEN K1 and K3 whether its exclusive or not. If not, you might as well expand K1 and scrap K2 which ONLY costs RM20 extra per person which is still technically cheaper than 100cc... A more logical approach is to revise the price. A revised price of around RM1.20 - 1.30 per cc for the current K2 karts or RM1.4 - 1.45 per cc for exclusive would make more sense, it should never be more expensive or equal in costs to 125cc.. sorry just my opinion.. hope u guys can use these points to push for a better pricing structure for us! CheerS!

Faibs,

K1 fees for next year is higher than K2 exclusive.

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...it is very unlikely (if not impossible) to run both K2 systems concurrently cos it is technically NOT EQUAL with regards to performance and price.

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